“Can These Bones” is a free podcast produced by Faith & Leadership that asks a fresh set of questions about leadership and the future of the church. The episodes feature conversations with leaders from the church and other fields to breathe life into leaders struggling in the “valley of dry bones.”

All 12 episodes are available now. Listen on the website or on your smartphone, tablet or computer.



Bill Lamar

Bill Lamar
The Rev. William H. "Bill" Lamar IV
Photo by Paul Holston, Tru1 Photography

The Rev. William H. “Bill” Lamar IV is the pastor of Metropolitan African Methodist Episcopal Church in Washington, D.C. He previously served Turner Memorial AME Church in Maryland and three churches in Florida.

He is a former managing director at Leadership Education at Duke Divinity. Lamar is a graduate of Florida Agricultural and Mechanical University (FAMU) and Duke Divinity School.

He can be reached on Twitter @WilliamHLamarIV.


Laura Everett

The Rev. Laura Everett is the executive director of the Massachusetts Council of Churches. Everett, an ordained United Church of Christ minister, previously served as associate director of the council.

Laura Everett
The Rev. Laura Everett
Photo by Jeff Dietrich

She is a graduate of Brown University and Harvard Divinity School. She serves on the advisory council of Leadership Education at Duke Divinity.

Everett is the author of “Holy Spokes: The Search for Urban Spirituality on Two Wheels.”

She can be reached on Twitter @RevEverett.


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Episode 1: Amy Butler, senior minister at The Riverside Church in the City of New York

Episode 2: Astead Herndon, national politics newspaper reporter

Episode 3: Albert Reyes, president and CEO of Buckner International

Episode 4: Gideon Tsang, pastor and teacher at Vox Veniae

Episode 5: Kate Bowler, assistant professor of church history, Duke Divinity School

Episode 6: Almeda M. Wright, assistant professor of religious education, Yale Divinity School

Daniel Black
Episode 7: Daniel Black, novelist and professor at Clark Atlanta University

Episode 8: Marty St. George, executive vice president of commercial and planning at JetBlue Airways

Episode 9: Yolanda Pierce, dean of Howard University School of Divinity

Episode 10: Eric Barreto, associate professor of New Testament, Princeton Theological Seminary

Episode 11: Vernon Jordan, attorney and civil rights activist

Episode 12: Matthew Croasmun, director of the Life Worth Living Program, Yale Center for Faith and Culture